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TOPIC: New Idea for Charm of Avarice < Feedback Please!

New Idea for Charm of Avarice < Feedback Please! 5 years 7 months ago #1

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Due to some feedback I received from various sources recently, I think it might be a good idea to change the Legendary Flint's Charm of Avarice to a Relic Charm of Avarice. This would lower the cost of the token while giving it an less complicated effect -- as well as leaving open the door for other UR Treasure Enhancing tokens in future years.

We can change this one graphic at the factory for a wee bit of cost, but I think it will be worth it in the end. What are your thoughts?

Thank you for your help and patience. The image can be viewed here:


www.truedungeon.com/newsletter/ava.jpg

NOTE: The final version will have a more medium blue glow instead of the light blue shown.

Here is the new proposed recipes for this Relic level version:

Charm of Avarice, recipe #1
Horn of Plenty
• Ring of Riches
• Charm of Good Fortune

• 8,000 GP in Reserve bars

Charm of Avarice, recipe #2
• 2× Alchemist's Ink
• 4× Alchemist's Parchment
• 1× Aragonite
• 6× Darkwood Plank
• 5× Dwarven Steel
• 4× Elven Bismuth
• 2× Enchanter’s Munition
• 1× Golden Fleece
• 3× Minotaur Hide
• 4× Mystic Silk
• 2× Oil of Enchantment
• 1× Philosopher's Stone

• 12,000 GP in Reserve bars
plus the equivalent of 7 points of tokens using the following values:
1 pt: Amulet of Treasure Finding
2 pts: Charm of Good Fortune
3 pts: Ring of Riches
4 pts: Horn of Plenty
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Re: New Idea for Charm of Avarice < Feedback Please! 5 years 7 months ago #2

So is there any change in what the charm does compaired to the legendary?
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Re: New Idea for Charm of Avarice < Feedback Please! 5 years 7 months ago #3

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Good question!

Basically, this token is not good for future UR Treasure Enhancing tokens, and its benefits are more clearly defined on the token. Here are the recipes for the current Legendary version. This version would completely disappear if the Relic version is made.

Flint's Charm of Avarice, recipe #1
• Horn of Plenty
• Ring of Riches
• Charm of Good Fortune

• 25,000 GP Eldritch Bar
plus ONLY ONE of the following:
• Wish Ring
• 15,000 GP in Reserve bars


Flint's Charm of Avarice, recipe #2
A total of 7+ points of trade in value amongst these 3 URs:
Amulet of Treasure Finding = worth 1 pt
Charm of Good Fortune = worth 2 pts
Ring of Riches = worth 2 pts
• 2× Alchemist's Ink
• 6× Alchemist's Parchment
• 2× Aragonite
• 6× Darkwood Plank
• 2× Dwarven Steel
• 2× Elven Bismuth
• 2× Enchanter’s Munition
• 2× Golden Fleece
• 2× Minotaur Hide
• 2× Mystic Silk
• 3× Oil of Enchantment
• 10× Philosopher's Stone
• 25,000 GP Eldritch Bar
plus ONLY ONE of the following:
• Wish Ring
• 15,000 GP in Reserve bars
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Re: New Idea for Charm of Avarice < Feedback Please! 5 years 7 months ago #4

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[img size=200,200]www.truedungeon.com/newsletter/ava.jpg[/img]
Have you looked it up in the TDb?
Please post TDb corrections/suggestions in this thread.
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Re: New Idea for Charm of Avarice < Feedback Please! 5 years 7 months ago #5

With those two formulas you come up with a difference of the following tokens between recipes

• 2× Alchemist's Ink
• 4× Alchemist's Parchment
• 1× Aragonite
• 6× Darkwood Plank
• 5× Dwarven Steel
• 4× Elven Bismuth
• 2× Enchanter’s Munition
• 1× Golden Fleece
• 3× Minotaur Hide
• 4× Mystic Silk
• 2× Oil of Enchantment
• 1× Philosopher's Stone
• 4,000 GP in Reserve bars
Minus a Charm of Good Fortune.

It seems like the difference really isn't that much and you could save a Charm by using the HOP and ROR with trade tokens and a tad more gold to make rather than the first recipe, but I can understand wanting to give someone a HOP a bonus to make it if they didn't have the ROR or Charm.
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Re: New Idea for Charm of Avarice < Feedback Please! 5 years 7 months ago #6

Hi Jeff,

I really like the change. I have a couple of thoughts/questions:

1) Will this be a timeless Relic, or only available for two years?

2) I'd recommend changing the wording to "Acts as equipping CoGF, HoP, and RoR. May not equip Amulet of Treasure Finding" or "Grants effects of CoGF, HoP, and RoR. May not equip CoGF, HoP, RoR, or AoTF". That way you can't equip the HoP, RoR, and/or CoGF in addition to the Charm of Avarice.

Thanks!
Mike
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Re: New Idea for Charm of Avarice < Feedback Please! 5 years 7 months ago #7

Druegar wrote:
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Re: New Idea for Charm of Avarice < Feedback Please! 5 years 7 months ago #8

This looks good to me, Question. Will this be a TIMELESS Relic? If not you open the exact same problem back up in 2 years.
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Re: New Idea for Charm of Avarice < Feedback Please! 5 years 7 months ago #9

Mike Steele wrote:
Hi Jeff,

I really like the change. I have a couple of thoughts/questions:

1) Will this be a timeless Relic, or only available for two years?

2) I'd recommend changing the wording to "Acts as equipping CoGF, HoP, and RoR. May not equip Amulet of Treasure Finding" or "Grants effects of CoGF, HoP, and RoR. May not equip CoGF, HoP, RoR, or AoTF". That way you can't equip both this and the HoP, RoR, and/or CoGF in addition to the Charm of Avarice.

Thanks!
Mike

You can't ever gain duplicate effects, so it doesn't need the changes in wording
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Re: New Idea for Charm of Avarice < Feedback Please! 5 years 7 months ago #10

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I might actually try to get this in this form, as a relic instead of a legendary. I say yea! I would need to get two more points of TEURs.
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Re: New Idea for Charm of Avarice < Feedback Please! 5 years 7 months ago #11

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Arcanist Kolixela wrote:
This looks good to me, Question. Will this be a TIMELESS Relic? If not you open the exact same problem back up in 2 years.

It will not be a timeless Relic. However, perhaps in 4-5 year we will have another Relic that will condense the effects of the Amulet of Treasure Finding and any other UR Treasure Enhancing tokens that may be printed between 2015-2020.
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Re: New Idea for Charm of Avarice < Feedback Please! 5 years 7 months ago #12

Mike Steele wrote:
Hi Jeff,

I really like the change. I have a couple of thoughts/questions:

1) Will this be a timeless Relic, or only available for two years?

2) I'd recommend changing the wording to "Acts as equipping CoGF, HoP, and RoR. May not equip Amulet of Treasure Finding" or "Grants effects of CoGF, HoP, and RoR. May not equip CoGF, HoP, RoR, or AoTF". That way you can't equip both this and the HoP, RoR, and/or CoGF in addition to the Charm of Avarice.

Thanks!
Mike

Yes I agree Mike as I know I benefitted from the Golden Apple two years ago.

http://tokendb.com/token/golden-apple-of-eris/

It allowed us to get double HOP. So Grants is not the same as "Acts as wearing"
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